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Day one to 1,290 of Daniel 12:11


Revisions: (11/16/2010 - just starting to clarify entire page and adding extra at the bottom) - Important clarification at Daniel 12:11 point 6 (11/17/2010)

I believe it is necessary to understand some of the different ways time was kept track of in Babylon during the writing of the book of Daniel. Time was calculated in units of days (what we understand as one complete rotation of the earth), lunar months (what we understand as approximately 29.5 days or the time it takes from "full moon to full moon" = 354 days // Or if they just used 30 days then a lunar year would = 360 days), and the solar year (what we understand to be one complete rotation of the earth traveling around the sun which equals 365.25 earth days). The most common format seemed to be using the lunar calendar, for calculating lengthy time periods. However, because the lunar year was shorter then the solar year, different methods were devised to make up for the "shorter" lunar year. In the time of Daniel (it is speculated), an extra lunar month (30 days) would be inserted every so often. The Jews also apparently used this method into the first century. You can see an example of this in the Reference Bible of the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures appendix 8B as the month "VEADAR" (known as an intercalary (or added) month about every three years). For accuracy purposes, mentioning something in days is more accurate then lunar years. So it is most likely that the time period mentioned as "an appointed time, appointed times and a half" (three and a half times) in Daniel 12:7 is most likely the same as or part of the 1,290 days mentioned in Daniel 12:11 because there is the possibility of an added lunar month of 30 days. The fact that it seems that Daniel 12:5-7 seems to be repeated but clarified for Daniel (see Daniel 12:8) in verses 8-11 (verses 12 and 13 are discussed later) - this gives more credibility to this thought. Also, assuming the correctness of the book of Daniel in including the necessary prophetic events concerning God's people, there is no room for two time periods in the interpretation - That is, one of 1,260 days (3.5 lunar years with no intercalary month) and one of 1,290 days. As for the 1,260 days mentioned in Revelation 11:3, see the comments below:

 Daniel 12:11 "And from the time that the constant [feature] has been removed and there has been a placing of the disgusting thing that is causing desolation, there will be one thousand two hundred and ninety days."

 Daniel 12:11 in the ROTHERHAM EMPHASISED BIBLE: "and < from the time of the taking away of the continual [ascending-sacrifice], and the placing of the horrid abomination that astoundeth > [shall be] one thousand two hundred and ninety days."

 Daniel 12:11 in the King James Version: "And from the time that the daily sacrifice be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days."

Daniel 12:11 in the New International Version: "From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days."

  1. It is important to identify this "the constant [feature]". This term is also translated as "the continual sacrifice" (see ref. bible footnote) or "daily sacrifice". In Daniel's day he realized that Jerusalem was to be restored and that it was the city that represented continuous service or "sacrifice" to Jehovah. Even future prophesy mentions that the city needs no light for Jehovah is the light and the sacred service is continuous. (Revelation 21:22-27) - For more in-depth information of "the constant [feature]" see Daniel 8:11-13 comments and at the end of Daniel chapter 8.
  2. This term "the constant [feature]" at Daniel 12:11 is the same Hebrew word as in Daniel 8:13 "How long will the vision be of the constant [feature] and of the transgression causing desolation, to make both [the] holy place and [the] army things to trample on?" This prophesy has been explained in detail at the "1.1 and 1.2 references of examining 1914" link. It is proven that this refers to the literal Jerusalem.
  3. So the beginning of this time period is set when the king of the north (mentioned in Daniel 11:29 "At the time appointed he will go back, and he will actually come against the south..") acts as mentioned in Daniel 11:31"And there will be arms that will stand up that will stand up, proceeding from him; and they will actually profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant [feature]." This is in our near future. This king of the north mentioned in Daniel 11 from verse 21 onward is different then the other king of the north mentioned having an uneventful end in Daniel 11:20 (This "king of the north" was Rome). The "king of the north" for our future has a definite end as mentioned at Daniel 11:44-45.
  4. Notice that the struggle has gone on for an undetermined period of time between the kings of the north and south before the king of the north removes the constant [feature] in Daniel 11:31 (or "to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice" according to the NIV Interlinear Hebrew - English Old Testament). But it is the action described as: "the arms" that "stand up" from the king of the north to "put in place the disgusting thing that is causing desolation" along with the removal of the "constant [feature]" that event marks the beginning of the 1,290 day period.
  5. Rome was the "king of the north" part of the wild beast in the first century that captured Jerusalem. Today, the "king of the north" and his "arms" are yet to be clearly identified (11-16-2010). These "arms" that "stand up" can be figured to be part of the "arms" that "stand up" and remove the "constant [feature]". The part of the event of the removal of the "constant [feature]" could take any number of days. It should also be noted that if this is the case, the 1,290 day period actually starts when the part of the event where "the arms" "stand up" from the king of the north and it is these actions that cause the removal of the "constant [feature]". One could say that the time period would start only with the removal of the "constant [feature]" but although that is a possibility, it does not fit as well with prophesy- See Daniel 12:11 comments; Revelation 11:3 comments below; and Revelation 12:7-17 (it would be from Satan's directing the king(s) of the north that this would happen and this most likely would not happen until he is "hurled" to the earth.) comments.
  6. In Revelation 11:3, it shows the "two witnesses to prophesy a thousand two hundred and sixty days dressed in sackcloth." - This is very specific regarding a time period. It is described in days and in Revelation 11:2, it is described in the number of months - So this must be literally 1,260 days long. The description also fits within the time period of 1,290 days mentioned and described in Daniel 11:32-35; 12:7,11. This is more apparent when one realizes that the 1,290 days mentioned in Daniel 12:11 includes both "the daily sacrifice is abolished" AND "the abomination that causes desolation is set up" (New International Version). It very well could be and it makes most sense to me that "the abomination that causes desolation is set up" begins before the conquering of Jerusalem. (See Daniel 8:13,14 to compare how the "holy city" is put into "its right condition" before it is acted upon again by the king of the north) This "abomination" could be anything from a coalition of governments to a government making a plan to attack Jerusalem to a new government body deciding to attack Jerusalem. But because of the phrase "the arms" will "stand up" (Daniel 11:31) seem to denote actions against Jerusalem. Because the term "to stand up" can denote "to take action" (Compare Daniel 12:1 - This verse uses the same Hebrew word "amad" as Daniel 11:31. This Hebrew word is assigned the Hebrew word number of 5975 by the Abingdon's Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible. The Vine's Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words defines this as: "to take one's stand; stand here or be there; stand still." And it gives an example of usage: "..in 1 Chron. 20:4 war "existed" or "arose" ('amad) again.") - See the above comment for Daniel 11:31. Speculation: If God's people start their 1,260 days in "sackcloth" and this starts when Jerusalem is "conquered" then it indicates that there could be a minimum of a 29-30 day war before Jerusalem is "conquered" - This is my speculation of a possibility from how some prophesies can fit together. But due to the fact that different translations render these scriptures differently, it is not easy - but not impossible - to discern this time period.
  7. Once Jehovah's true people realize that they need to repent, it seems that the message from God's true people changes to the nations a bit. It changes more from "the good news of the kingdom" to "Repent! The kingdom of Jehovah is near! And this is why and what it means..." This message will contain good news but bad news too and it will be scathing. I also believe that during this time, it is allowed for Jehovah's people to "act un-righteously" towards mankind in spreading His messages - That is, ignoring any law that hinders the message from getting out. They are being warred upon! (Revelation)

Scriptures that refer to this time period:

Lamentations is full of sad reasons why God's people are "forsaken" by him. This was the case back then (Jeremiah's) and in some ways the early Christians and will start for our day when Jerusalem is destroyed or conquered. I suggest reading the entire book.

Other scriptures to be added later



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